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From: Reed Simpson reedsimpson@gmail.com
Subject: 150ct24 City Council Meeting on Court St Traffic calming measures and suggestions
Date: October 15, 2024 at 2:17 PM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov, westcourtpasco@gmail.com,
Reed Simpson reedsimpson@gmail.com
The section of Court Street most susceptible to speeders is McKeever Park and the
straightaway from the curve to the west and Road 111. There are no traffic
mitigation speed reduction measures under the 182 bridge for people trying to cross
lanes of traffic by walkers or bicycles using the Sacagawea trail system. There
needs to be a redirect of traffic at the crossings for the trail system. Recently a
Pasco department removed the crosswalk lines under the bridge. WashDOT
confirmed they did not remove the crosswalk lines. Currently there is nothing to
mark the crossings on Court Street. Imagine the reputation that Pasco would suffer
if the trail users were injured or killed coming off of the bridge onto Court street
because there is no mitigation for even a simple crosswalk designated paint stripe.
The arguments of aesthetically pleasing traffic calming measures are
understandable; however as slow as the city is in making the street more safe for
residents, I think it's time to just do something. Signs, candlesticks and turtle bumps
in the road all sound good. However there are signs up this week telling people that
Court Street is closed from the 182 bridge to Harris. They're not small signs, they're
very noticeable and easily read. However, people do not see them and come all the
way to the 182 bridge and turn around and go back indicating signs don't work. The
only thing that's going to slow traffic is physical redirection that needs to be done
sooner than later. People don't see 30 mph speed limit signs or double yellow lines;
they do what they want unless there is something that makes them slow down.
Public works director estimates an alternative 1 A, signs only installation is
estimated cost is $40,000 for two signs. Amazon will deliver a solar powered LED
radar speed display sign on a post for $3,400 delivered. Two of those make $7,000
so is the director saying that the city needs $33,000 to dig two holes and install two
signs? Get a better estimate.
The cost associated with alternatives to the full streetscape project is estimated at
$6 million plus dollars. Have the public works director put a little more effort in
getting a better and more accurate estimate. You do not need a full streetscape to
have calming measures. The person who put the agenda report data October 11 th
together for the city council is clearly trying to deflect the work.
Please install speed cushions as you installed on Road 96 them as soon as
possible, along with radar speed display signs, candlesticks and turtle redirect
bumps, well marked crosswalk lines for the Sacagawea trail and speed cushions as
soon as possible.
Thank you
Reed Simpson
11404 Court St
From: Deborah Huntington deborahuntington@aol.com
Subject: City of Pasco Council West Court Street
Date: October 13, 2024 at 7:18 PM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasty-wa.gov
Cc: westcourtpasco@gmail.com
As a resident of West Court Street, I would like to voice my concern over the ongoing speed and safety problems between Road 100 and
Harris Road. It is my understanding that the Pasco Council members are not taking the seriousness of these issues to task because we
have not had any "unfortunate" accidents on West Court or Harris Road. The consulting company overseeing the recommendations to the
City does not fully understand the impact of the possible unforeseen, costly implications of the current pending solutions.
It was suggested that speed bumps were to be installed between Road 100 and the Bridge but the Pasco Fire Department had some
objections regarding their longer ladder fire trucks. How often does the fire department drive these vehicles along Court? Truck inspections
would be much less money than a $611 M (Project #32) overhaul of West Court with completion in 2027-2030.
The answer is becoming more and more important as traffic increases in the area especially with the new residential development at Harris
and Court which will be completed before we know it! Reducing the speed limit to 25 MPH and installing a stop sign with a solar powered
flashing red light at Road 108 is an easy and inexpensive possible solution. Also, the need to focus on the SAFETY of pedestrians and
bicyclists on the Sacajawea Trail is paramount. As a resident who lives on Count, the traffic of these individuals is my number one concern
when I drive on West Court. They are on BOTH sides of the street day and night. It will only get busier once the new homes are
completed. Does the consulting company understand the uniqueness of this bike/pedestrian lane?
The budget deficit facing the City of Pasco should not be a deciding factor when there is a new, massive subdivision going in adjacent to
Court Street. The developer should be responsible for the added traffic burdens on Harris and Court the project will create. ProMade
Homes should address and pay for traffic improvements NOW. The infrastructure in this entire square mile area is way behind the rapid
growth of the Broadmoor/Road 100 building development. At least 500 new resident families with close to 1000 cars, will adversely impact
the current traffic flow on Broadmoor, Road 100, West Court and Harris. Currently there is no stop light at Harris and Broadmoor therefore if
these new residents want to get to Road 68 where the schools and shopping are located or get on the highway, they will either turn right,
TRY and turn left from Harris to Broadmoor or go directly on to West Court "the back way."
The answers to this safety question could be easily started. Putting a stop sign with a solar paneled, red flashing light at Road 108 in three
directions and slowing traffic to 25 MPH on West Court are two inexpensive steps in the right direction. Hopefully, cars will slow down
traveling along West Court. It would be a small and inexpensive step in the right direction. The Public Works Department could re-
evaluate with traffic monitors over the following months. How about the radar feedback signs? Maybe re-evaluate the speed bumps too.
We don't need an entire "Full Streetscape Project" either. How about a stop sign and a few 25MPH signs? That's easy..... And a few
steps in the right direction.
Sincerely,
702.683.4832
"Never let the spirit of America die!"
From: ljanelh@charter.net
Subject: West Court Street safety
Date: October 14, 2024 at 9:22AM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov, westcourtpasco@gmail.com
Cc: westcourtpasco@gmail.com
Pasco City Council Members
I am writing to request the Council's support to find realistic and effective ways to address the safety issues relevant to West Court Street
between Road 100 and the 1182 bridge.
Several ideas have been discussed including lowering the speed limit or adding stop signs. These solutions would only be helpful if they
were enforceable, and I'm not convinced the City can afford to have that level of police presence in one area.
Other ideas include installing roundabouts or "islands" that calm traffic. These ideas require less monitoring, but funding may be an issue
as I understand it. As my property taxes continue to rise, I struggle accepting this response to our neighborhood's requests for help.
The growth around this area will only exacerbate the problem in the coming years, and waiting until 2027-2030 will likely be too late. Cars
routinely go upwards of 60 mph on Court Street at all hours, and my neighbors, their pets and the many Sacajawea Trail users are at real
risk of injury or death.
Poor planning at the expense of taxpayer safety is inexcusable. We are asking for effective solutions to a documented and growing safety
issue. Please act effectively and in a timely manner before our worst fears of what could happen become a reality.
Thank you.
Lara Hastings
From: Jesse Navarrete boboso_29yahoo.com
Subject: Court street
Date: October 14, 2024 at 10:24AM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncilgpasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncilgpasco-wa.gov, westcourtpascoggmail.com
Jesse Navarrete
10811 W Court St
Pasco, WA 99301
10/14/24
Pasco City Council
Pasco, WA 99301
Dear Council Member's,
I am writing to express my concerns regarding the safety of residents, particularly children, along Court Street in Pasco. As a resident of this
street, I have observed a significant increase in speeding, high traffic volume, and even instances of drag racing, particularly during the late
evening hours. With the impeding construction to start phase 1 of new housing development to start. The volume of traffic is about to grow
even more.
The safety hazards posed by these activities are of grave concern to me, as my home faces this main road and lacks a protective fence.
With children living in my household, the risk of an accident is unacceptably high. The situation not only endangers my family but also all
residents and pedestrians in our community. We have a decent volume of walkers, dog walkers, joggers, and bike riders that frequently use
this road.
I urge the council to consider implementing measures to address these issues. Possible solutions could include increased traffic
enforcement, the installation of speed bumps, and more prominent signage to alert drivers to the residential nature of our area.
I appreciate your attention to this matter and look forward to seeing steps taken to enhance the safety of Court Street for all its residents.
Sincerely,
Jesse Navarrete
From: Kathleen Megow kmegow@charter.net
Subject: West Court Street between Road 100 and the 1-182 Bridge
Date: October 14, 2024 at 4:29 PM
To: Dallas Green westcourtpasco@gmail.com, Mayor Pro Tem Milne milnecouncilQpasco-wa.gov, Mayor Serrano
serranocouncilCpasco-wa.gov, Council Member Harpster HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov
Mayor Serrano, Mayor Pro Tem Milne, and Council Member Harpster:
With regard to the Pasco City Council meeting of October 15, 2024 and the agenda item for
Council discussion relative to the ongoing speed and safety problems on West Court Street,
between Road 100 and the 1-182 bridge, please consider the following observations.
We are long-time Pasco residents and property owners; we have always lived on Court Street.
We are now retired, and, as such, have had daily occasion to observe the traffic and speeding
on Court Street. The 30 mile -per -hour speed limit in effect is a joke; almost no drivers observe
it. On a daily basis, we see cars, trucks, motorcycles, trucks with trailers, semi -trucks, heavy
construction equipment, cement trucks, school buses, and more go barreling down Court as if
they're in a race.
Because of all the heavy equipment traveling down Court Street, cracks in the road have
appeared and are getting more numerous. Cracks that had been asphalted in the past are now
widening and getting deeper.
The former site of Harris Farm is now an active construction site and more and more heavy
equipment is being moved in and out of the site, with most of the vehicles pounding down
Court. And none of these vehicles observe a 30 mile -per -hour speed limit. Even school buses
with hundreds of children go roaring down Court.
Any solutions to curbing or ameliorating the above problem would involve money, of course.
The City Council doesn't have the money (they never do), and there are budget cutbacks, of
course, but how is it that the City Council has approved the construction of an elaborate and
very expensive water park on Harris Road (which will no doubt be utilized by only the small
number of people who voted for it and not appealing to all the residents who have to pay for it).
And ultimately, all the current problems and speeding mentioned above will be greatly
exacerbated by the construction of the condos and homes now in process at the former Harris
Farm site, plus the construction of additional homes and condos planned for Road 100 by the
same developer.
This subject has been addressed many times in the past, but we have seen no solutions
forthcoming. And it appears the City just does not care. With the excessive speeding and
reckless driving, it is just a matter of time until someone is killed on this roadway in Pasco.
Kathleen Megow and Louis Boliou, 3713 Road 109, Pasco, Washington
From: rmwebring@chartennet
Subject: West Court Street Traffic
Date: October 15, 2024 at 9:11 AM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov, westcourtpasco@gmail.com
I am writing to each of you regarding the traffic issues we experience on West Court
Street. My comments are specific to the stretch from the intersection with Road
100 up to the bridge underpass. My comments are in direct response to the notice
of Council Meeting dated 10/11 /24.
In reading the agenda, I was shocked to see that City Staff had concluded that
speeds have been determined to be "reasonable and expected for the conditions".
This conclusion is in direct conflict with police traffic studies completed and a
meeting held early last spring at 10508 West Court Street which was attended by
City Staff and Police officers. In that meeting, city Staff discussed the problems and
various methods of dealing with it. It was the consensus of all present that we had
a significant problem and risk to pedestrians and bicyclists on the Sacajawea
Heritage Trail which shares this stretch of West Court Street. City Staff did not
dispute the problem then and was in agreement with the need for corrective action.
The only conclusion that now makes sense is that the City has overspent on other
projects including the East Lewis Street overpass and the major modifications on
West Sylvester Street among others and funding is now not available. Thus the
narrative has to be changed.
The City cannot keep adding high density housing in our area and expect that a bad
situation will not get worse.
The changes on West Sylvester consisted of a wholesale remake of that street
adding sidewalks, a walking /bike trail separated from the street with a curb and
ditch, crosswalks, etc. These changes are exceptional and far beyond what is
being asked for on West Court Street which handles more foot traffic and bicycle
traffic in a day than West Sylvester has in a week. As a pedestrian, one must
compete with cars/trucks/busses passing us within 5 feet with no separation or
protection. Its absurd!
It is time to stop spending money on studies that go nowhere and wasting staff
time. It is time to install 4 or 5 speed humps on this stretch of West Court Street in
conjunction with lowering the speed limit to 25 mph. We don't need to have a
sophisticated design study performed. Speed humps are common; select an
existing design and install them. Buy new speed limit signs and install them. The
City has probably already spent more on studies and staff time than the cost of this
change. Once completed, it will exist with minimal ongoing maintenance costs.
We are not willing to accept the excuse that the speed limit cannot be changed or
other changes cannot be completed due to the categorization of the street. The
City can make a decision that an exceptional circumstance exists and make an
exception to normal convention.
We live in a neighborhood that is otherwise quiet and safe and does not cost the
city a lot of money for emergency services. We pay a lot in taxes on this street and
are just asking for a simple, passive solution to a commonly known problem.
Thanks you for your consideration.
Rod Webring
10504 West Court Street
From: diane hart dianehart33@gmail.com
Subject: West Court Street concerns
Date: October 15, 2024 at 11:22 AM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov, Dallas Green
westcourtpasco@ gmail.com
Good Morning!
I'm writing in regards to the traffic concerns I have on West Court St. I live at 10109 W. Court St. and over the few years that I have lived
here have witnessed enough poor driving along this street that I would appreciate and welcome some significant changes.
1) A driver ran into my neighbor's garbage can, broke it and garbage was everywhere. We used duct tape to hold it together until she
could get a new garbage can.
2) A semi truck hit a mailbox cluster and it punctured his tire.
3) A car hit a bike lane sign, it's still bent. A rearview mirror was left behind. Police were called and one came. The car was long gone.
4) A vehicle ran across my flower bed, broke a sprinkler, drove behind a mailbox cluster and clipped a paper box.
5) A vehicle ran into a boulder next to the flower bed, displaced 4 boulders, and broke a yard light.
And these are only the things that I have witnessed in front of my house!
All of these incidents could have seriously hurt pedestrians or bicyclists because the vehicles had to cross the thin white line that separates
the two.
I sure hope we aren't waiting for someone to die before any action is taken.
I would support a 25 MPH speed limit.
1 would support stop signs on West Court at Road 101, 103, and 108.
1 would support roundabouts (small residential street style) at Road 100, 101, 103, and 108. They have these in West Seattle and they
really work!
1 would support "speed cushions" because I have experienced them and they work. New ones have been installed on Road 98 and on
Clover Island. They slow you down to appropriate speeds for the area. They are installing these in West Seattle as well, and they work!
I appreciate your time to consider my concerns and I look forward to improvements on West Court St.
Diane Hart
From: Aaron Richardson aaronscottrichardson@gmail.com
Subject: Council email about traffic safety concerns
Date: October 15, 2024 at 1:33 PM
To: Dallas Green westcourtpasco@gmail.com
Dallas,
Thanks so much for all your dedicated efforts in addressing this issue. I am not able to attend council meeting tonight, but here is a copy of
the email I just sent to all council members:
To Whom It May Concern
I would like to thank the Pasco City Council and staff for working to address serious safety issues along the Sacajawea Heritage Trail along
Court St near Road 100, This is not only a grave risk to the residents in our neighborhood, but also to the hundreds of bicyclists and
joggers that utilize the area. Past data has clearly demonstrated the outright scary speeds that many vehicles travel throughout our
neighborhood. I have attended previous meetings to voice concern for these safety concerns.
We would love to see simple steps that would in reality not be very costly, such as painting crosswalks at some of the intersections with
Court St (Road 100, Road 103, Road 108, etc), lowering the speed limit to 25 MPH, adding stop signs to make 3-way/all-way stops, or
placing speed cushions, among other options. My understanding is that the city is considering a multimillion dollar plan to calm traffic in the
future, years from now. I implore you to consider one or more of these basic steps that could provide more immediate relief and improved
safety in our neighborhood within the next 6-12 months.
Thank you for your consideration.
Aaron Richardson
10309 W Court St.
From: Dallas Green dall asgreen 9 charter. net e
Subject: 10115 Council Discussion - Sacajawea Trail & West Court
Date: October 15, 2024 at 11:01 AM
To: serranocouncil@pasco-wa.gov, Dave Milne milnecouncil@pasco-wa.gov, barajascouncil@pasco-wa.gov,
blasdelcouncil@pasco-wa.gov, HarpsterCouncil@pasco-wa.gov, Leo Perales PeralesCouncil@pasco-wa.gov,
GrimmCouncil@pasco-wa.gov
Cc: Adam Lincoln LINCOLNA@pasco-wa.gov
City Leaders,
This evening the Public Works Department will present you with a few options for traffic calming along West Court Street between Road 100
and the 1-182 Bridge.
The phrase of the century contained in the agenda report is "speeds are reasonable and expected."
Reasonable by whose standard? Expected by whom?
When a pedestrian is killed by a vehicle on the Sacajawea Trail portion of West Court Street, I can assure you that statement by the City will
be "Exhibit 1" in the lawsuit brought by survivors.
In the opinion of many residents, the calming measures in Alternative 1 and 1A will do little to improve safety:
Alternative 1:
• Double striping was already installed on West Court this past summer. It has had no effect on speeds.
• Delineators (plylons or as some call candlesticks) have already been installed on Road 96. They provide a wonderful device for
street racers to test their maneuvering skills with racing around them. As Mayor Serrano expressed concern at a prior meeting,
forcing speeding vehicles to weave slightly could create a far bigger problem. Additionally, our neighborhood feels they are
unsightly for residents and trail users. Delineators should not be part of the plan.
• Radar Feedback Signage is highly supported by the neighborhood. We were all told the signs would be installed this summer and
they have not been, now we see they appear to be an open discussion item.
• Placement of these signs: Public Works has been told by residents the sign slated for placement near Road 111 puts it too far west
of Road 108, where a large amount of commuter traffic enters and exits West Court. Strong consideration must be given to placing
that feedback sign EAST of the Road 108 intersection so it may interact with the greatest number of drivers unless the City were to
install three signs..
Alternative 1A:
• Radar Feedback Signs only option. Please consider the topography of West Court Street in this area; it is over one mile of a
straight stretch with only one slight bend. It is a race track. Speed signs will not deter many daily commuter offenders and certainly
not those using the street to race. While it will have some positive effect it will not do enough, we need something to break sight
lines and physically slow traffic.
Alternative 2:
• The specifics for this proposal are yet lobe flushed out. Given the proposed cost, one hopes this will bean effective and
cosmetically acceptable solution for the trail users and residents_
• The neighborhood has concerns about this alternative:
o The timeline for completion is over 5-years out.
o There is little belief the City will be able to source the funds necessary.
o What was recently done with Sylvester is a complete mess, the City and residents will likely regret the design that was
chosen and this same mistake cannot be made on West Court.
o Many in the neighborhood hope small residential roundabouts could be installed at Roads 101, 103, and 108 along with
a reduced speed limit of 25 and feedback signs.
The City must consider what the neighborhood wants and what is needed for effective safety. We must avoid another design nightmare
such as the recent work on Sylvester.
Time is off the essence, we cannot wait over 5-years for a solution and hope for the funding, I ask the City Council to consider immediately:
• Reduce the speed limit to 25 MPH
• Install speed cushions as the City just did on Road 96, with spacing possibly being one per block. If speed cushions are ruled out,
then consider stop signs at Roads 101, 103, and 108.
• For Alternative 2, seek consensus from residents before design work is started so another Sylvester design disaster is not
repeated.
• The City needs to terminate the contracted engineer who is failing to consider the sheer volume of pedestrian traffic on the trail in
his estimate of what is "reasonable," let alone safe. It is NOT acceptable to believe it is "reasonable" to put the family pictured
below on the Sacajawea Trail next to cars traveling at over 30 MPH with a great number traveling at nearly twice the posted speed
limit (See the two attached PPD speed studies, on page 2 of each study, note the number of cars well over 50 MPH).
Thank you,
Dallas Green
10508 W Court St
Pasco, WA
Speed Trailer Court St. and 103 Ej
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